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U/C 171-191 Lester Street | 53 m | 17 fl

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171-191 Lester Street
City of Waterloo


17-storey | 91-units | 455 bedrooms

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Post #39932
10-15-2012 01:02 PM
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City of Waterloo Special Council Meeting: October 15, 2012 6:30 p.m.

4. CONSENT MOTION

“That Consent Motion Items (a) to (c) be approved.”

b) Demolition Control Application DC2012-146 (

Existing Conditions


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Post #39933
10-15-2012 01:38 PM
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455 bedrooms / 91 units = 5 bedrooms per unit.

Interesting that it consists of all the remaining houses except for the last one that is actually at the corner of Lester and Seagram. This will no doubt reduce the developability of that corner space. Considering that Seagram is to be the grand entrance to Laurier (from the horrifically poorly located Seagram LRT stop), this doesn't really bode well for urbanization.


That said, I like the retro-futurism design.
Post #39935
10-15-2012 01:54 PM
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"I have always believed that what is originally an abuse does not cease to be one by having become customary."
Quote Originally Posted by markster
455 bedrooms / 91 units = 5 bedrooms per unit.

Interesting that it consists of all the remaining houses except for the last one that is actually at the corner of Lester and Seagram. This will no doubt reduce the developability of that corner space. Considering that Seagram is to be the grand entrance to Laurier (from the horrifically poorly located Seagram LRT stop), this doesn't really bode well for urbanization.


That said, I like the retro-futurism design.
At least its aesthetic of yesterday's-tomorrow-today works well with the preemptively outdated future currently being developed in Waterloo.
Post #39939
10-15-2012 04:22 PM
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Waterloo's motto:

Yes the carpet is ugly but it matches the curtains.
Post #39943
10-15-2012 06:52 PM
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Lester's already ruined, so why not
Post #39951
10-15-2012 08:35 PM
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What is with the portholes?
Post #39952
10-15-2012 08:43 PM
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Quote Originally Posted by DHLawrence
What is with the portholes?
Bless this student box and all those who sail in her.
Post #40113
10-22-2012 01:33 AM
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There is still no grocery store in that area. One could make a tidy profit putting up a grocery store smack dab in the middle of university Avenue. Unless you consider Farah Foods to be a grocery store
Post #40119
10-22-2012 10:17 AM
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Quote Originally Posted by ThatGuy
There is still no grocery store in that area. One could make a tidy profit putting up a grocery store smack dab in the middle of university Avenue. Unless you consider Farah Foods to be a grocery store
Until the Northdale zoning is fully in place, I don't think there's anywhere in that area where the city will allow a grocery store.
Post #40120
10-22-2012 10:24 AM
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Quote Originally Posted by mpd618
Until the Northdale zoning is fully in place, I don't think there's anywhere in that area where the city will allow a grocery store.
Of course, because University Ave. is zoned commercial for most of its traditional extent except between the two universities.
Post #40919
11-27-2012 09:15 AM
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The city is made up of elected people, who are subordinate to the will of the people. If the will of the people is for a grocery store, it shall be, no questions asked. At least thats how it was explained to me.
Post #40926
11-27-2012 12:26 PM
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Quote Originally Posted by ThatGuy
The city is made up of elected people, who are subordinate to the will of the people. If the will of the people is for a grocery store, it shall be, no questions asked. At least thats how it was explained to me.
Some things are harder to change than others. Zoning can always change, but councils are sometimes unwilling to change zoning unless there's a lot of pressure, because there's a feeling that it shouldn't change on a whim.
Post #40938
11-27-2012 09:24 PM
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A grocery store looks to currently be permitted in the "C4-25" zone applied to the University shops plaza (both sides of Philip St), and the "C6-25" zone applied to the starbucks plaza at University and King, all the way to Hickory St.

Might it be that for whatever reason, grocery chains have made decisions not to locate in this area? I wonder if convenience (fast) food is winning out here based on demand?

This area needs a grocery store. I hope a chain finds a reason to step into this market, but equally hope that any future chain does not come at the expense of Uptown's Valumart.
Post #40945
11-27-2012 10:55 PM
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Quote Originally Posted by planningthatplannyplan
Might it be that for whatever reason, grocery chains have made decisions not to locate in this area? I wonder if convenience (fast) food is winning out here based on demand?
I think there's demand for far more retail than is currently supplied near the universities. Current retail uses in those plazas are probably higher revenue per square foot than a classic grocery store concept would be, I assume. And the chains probably don't look too far beyond the biggest downtowns for their urban format stores.
Post #44253
05-11-2013 07:27 PM
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Is there anything going on with this monster?
Post #44254
05-11-2013 08:04 PM
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Quote Originally Posted by Waterlooian4Life
Is there anything going on with this monster?
They just completed demolition last week.
Post #44364
05-17-2013 10:34 AM
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Post #45186
06-15-2013 08:25 PM
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June 14, 2013
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Post #46162
07-17-2013 07:11 PM
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Crane went up today, with European style control pod. Sorry, no pictures.