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U/C Belmont Village Condominiums | 33 m | 11 fl

Post #5933
05-01-2010 06:41 PM
garthdanlor

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Belmont Village Condominiums
539 Belmont Avenue West, Kitchener
Developer:
Post #5942
05-01-2010 10:54 PM
UrbanWaterloo

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I don't see anything for 535 Belmont, but there have been building permits for it's neighbouring property.

Site Address 539 BELMONT AVE W
Permit No 10112313
Work Description PERMIT IS FOR THE BALANCE OF CONSTRUCTION FOR A 11 STOREY 114 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING WITH 1 BELOW GRADE PARKING LEVEL.
Status Under Review
Permit Category Residential Building (Multi)
Permit Type Apartment
Application Date April 29, 2010
Issued By
Issue Date
Final Date
Work Proposed New Construction
Construction Value 17750000
Residential Units on Property 114
Special Conditions See address change request in street file for 539 Belmont Ave W. NEED LIST OF UNITS NEED DRAWING SHOWING UNIT LAYOUT & NUMBERING FOR BARB F.
Contractor TRICAR DEVELOPMENTS INC
Contractor Contact Info 3800 COLONEL TALBOT RD LONDON ON N6P 1H5 phone 519- - phone2 519- -
LAND_USE_SUBCATEGORY MULTIPLE
AREA 5346.9454355
LEN 343.77929294407

Site Address 539 BELMONT AVE W
Permit No 09122898
Work Description PERMIT IS FOR A FOUNDATION ONLY FOR A 11 STOREY 114 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING WITH 1 BELOW GRADE PARKING LEVEL - NO MECHANICAL, NO ELECTRICAL. SEPARATE PERMIT REQUIRED FOR BALANCE OF CONSTRUCTION.
Status Issued
Permit Category Residential Building (Multi)
Permit Type Apartment
Application Date November 25, 2009
Issued By MARTINAS
Issue Date April 21, 2010
Final Date
Legal Description PLAN 402 PT LOTS 15 & 16 RP 58R2550 PARTS 3 4 5 & 7
Work Proposed Foundation - Only
Construction Value 1500000
Residential Units on Property 0
Special Conditions See notes on drawings. All work shall comply with the 2006 Building Code Final Inspection Deposit waived. See address change request in street file for 539 Belmont Ave W.
Contractor TRICAR DEVELOPMENTS INC
Post #5950
05-02-2010 07:46 AM
garthdanlor

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Thanks, I wasn't sure the address of that empty property (535 is the medical centre). Looks to be a decent sized building for that area. Interested to see what the final drawings look like. The Tricar Developments site doesn't mention a Kitchener building yet.
Post #5980
05-02-2010 07:42 PM
Spokes

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There was a project called Five 39 BV that was talked about a couple years ago, I wonder if it's the same thing.
Post #6479
05-08-2010 07:45 PM
RangersFan

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From the The Record January 19, 2010
London developer plans 11-story high rise


KITCHENER — The Tricar Group of London, Ont., is planning an 11-storey apartment building on Belmont Avenue near Gage Avenue in Kitchener. The company recently purchased the property and has taken out a building permit for the footings, foundations and underground parking for the project, located at 539 Belmont Ave. W. Currently, the site is vacant. Tricar built the high-rise apartment building at Weber and Queen streets in Kitchener.
Post #6480
05-08-2010 08:06 PM
Urban_Enthusiast86

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For this one, I'm not expecting a much quality in the urban design department, but at least it's neither uptown nor downtown.
Post #6482
05-08-2010 08:20 PM
jay

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Least it has u/g parking and is close to Belmont Village.
Post #6486
05-09-2010 01:24 AM
mpd618

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Waterloo, ON
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Staff are supposed to get around to making Belmont Avenue West a mixed-use corridor sometime towards the end of this year. This section will be included.
Post #6501
05-09-2010 10:11 AM
Spokes

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Quote Originally Posted by mpd618 View Post
Staff are supposed to get around to making Belmont Avenue West a mixed-use corridor sometime towards the end of this year. This section will be included.
Yup, although given how behind they are on the other sections, expect the BV mixed use corridor to happen in about a year from now.

Too bad this one won't be mixed use.
Post #7449
05-24-2010 09:28 AM
mpd618

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Quote Originally Posted by Urban_Enthusiast86 View Post
For this one, I'm not expecting a much quality in the urban design department, but at least it's neither uptown nor downtown.
There's currently a hole on the site quite a ways back from the street. I hope everyone's looking forward to street-fronting parking....
Post #7468
05-24-2010 06:34 PM
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Post #7478
05-24-2010 08:19 PM
Spokes

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Well I hope you're wrong, but I don't think you are unfortunately. If this passed with surface parking along the street, the city is on crack.
Post #7485
05-24-2010 10:51 PM
mpd618

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Quote Originally Posted by Spokes View Post
Well I hope you're wrong, but I don't think you are unfortunately. If this passed with surface parking along the street, the city is on crack.
With existing zoning, the developer is probably fully within their rights to put surface parking between the street and the building. This is why I hope the city gets on rezoning this corridor pronto.
Post #7486
05-24-2010 10:53 PM
Spokes

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Quote Originally Posted by mpd618 View Post
With existing zoning, the developer is probably fully within their rights to put surface parking between the street and the building. This is why I hope the city gets on rezoning this corridor pronto.
Im right there with ya, but I wouldn't hold my breath. The way they've taken their time with the other ones this one's at least a year away.
Post #8845
06-21-2010 07:22 PM
Spokes

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The pieces of crane are on site, expect to see this one go up this week.
Post #10166
07-07-2010 02:01 AM
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Post #11662
07-27-2010 10:21 PM
mpd618

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The crane's up.
Post #11900
07-30-2010 04:43 PM
Spokes

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So it looks like the hole is right up to the front of the property in almost the whole lot. Great news since we thought initially there would be a big front yard/parking lot out front. This may just be for the underground parking though, and the building may still be quite set back.
Post #12121
08-04-2010 07:02 AM
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Post #20821
05-01-2010 06:41 PM
garthdanlor

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Does anyone know what is going in next to the medical centre @ 535 Belmont? Excavation has begun.
Post #20875
12-10-2010 11:44 AM
metropolis

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Based on the early construction pics they excavated the entire site for underground parking. This was promising. Now based on the render they are going to have additional surface parking "lots of parking for guests!" the website says and much of it looks like it is along the sides/front of the structure. The building should be positioned parallel to the street, pressed up against the sidewalk with any absolutely needed parking hidden out back. Even the student apartments along King St. have been able to get that right!

As I said already the whole thing looks really Mickey Mouse, inside and out.

FYI the image at the top of the page is really stretched and I know it is because their website (Mickey Mouse too by the way ) is doing that to the image but is there any way to fix that?
Post #20877
12-10-2010 01:36 PM
IEFBR14

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Quote Originally Posted by metropolis View Post
Now based on the render they are going to have additional surface parking "lots of parking for guests!"
Unless the condo corp hires rent-a-cops the outdoor parking will more likely be used by owners who have more than one car but who either didn't have the foresight/money to buy additional underground parking spots or who found that they were all sold out. I suspect that some (many?) buyers pay for additional parking spots in the hope that they can later rent/resell them for a profit.

FYI the image at the top of the page is really stretched and I know it is because their website (Mickey Mouse too by the way ) is doing that to the image but is there any way to fix that?
One way is, especially for PhotoShop illiterates like me, would be to use another graphic from their site, e.g.

Post #20890
12-10-2010 06:09 PM
jay

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Quote Originally Posted by IEFBR14 View Post
Just curious, but does Bauer Lofts have individual HVAC in each unit?
Yes each unit has it's own Heat Pump and is individually billed.
Post #20932
12-11-2010 10:27 AM
IEFBR14

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Quote Originally Posted by jay View Post
Yes each [Bauer Lofts] unit has it's own Heat Pump and is individually billed.
So Belmont Village Condominiums brings [to rip off a phrase] "small town cheap" to Belmont Villages's "small town feel."
Post #20979
12-11-2010 08:08 PM
SP!RE

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Ugh. What a blight this architecture-less piece of junk this will be. Sigh.
Post #20984
12-11-2010 09:59 PM
Urban_Enthusiast86

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Compared to what I thought it was going to be, I'm actually a little relieved. But only just barely.

For an apartment building being built on spec, I figured it would look something like what's gone up/is going up behind the Cambridge Centre.

But by condominium standards, it's kind of ugly. The worst part of all is the surface parking lot surrounding it. I was hoping something would be built there which would extend the 'village' southwards.
Post #20987
12-11-2010 10:05 PM
mpd618

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Quote Originally Posted by Urban_Enthusiast86 View Post
But by condominium standards, it's kind of ugly. The worst part of all is the surface parking lot surrounding it. I was hoping something would be built there which would extend the 'village' southwards.
The Belmont mixed-use corridor can't come too soon....
Post #21032
12-12-2010 02:19 PM
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Quote Originally Posted by mpd618 View Post
The Belmont mixed-use corridor can't come too soon....
I'd like to see Belmont between Union and Glasgow lined like this, up to four stories high if these apartments were visually improved.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=belmont...079999999,,0,0
Post #21582
12-22-2010 06:21 AM
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Post #22882
01-16-2011 09:06 AM
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Post #22884
01-16-2011 09:09 AM
Spokes

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Those big windows look good!!
Post #26279
02-19-2011 08:06 AM
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Post #26282
02-19-2011 09:37 AM
panamaniac

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I know that this project has its critics, but the floorplans for the condos show some surprisingly spacious units. That together with what looks like big windows and balconies would seem to promise some pretty decent living space, although it might be too car-oriented for some tastes.
Post #26286
02-19-2011 11:58 AM
Spokes

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It looks like the wall is already finished on the outside. Are they doing precast walls with this thing?
Post #26288
02-19-2011 01:04 PM
KevinL

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Quote Originally Posted by Spokes View Post
Are they doing precast walls with this thing?
That's definitely my guess; no way were those poured in place.
Post #26310
02-19-2011 07:59 PM
BigCityBoy

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Quote Originally Posted by KevinL View Post
That's definitely my guess; no way were those poured in place.
Definitely pre-cast panels and floors on exterior walls and most interiors - i've been watching them put them in. Very fast way to erect the walls and allows for factory-controlled construction of the panels. There are also at least two in-situ re-inforced walls being installed in the core. It'll be interesting to see how they cover gaps in the segments and whether further down the road i wonder if rust stains will be a problem with the wall connections?

This development seems a little 1950's style of pre-cast, knock'em up and make'em cheap-style of apartment construction so famous in council estates across Britain at that time. The surrounding properties are not great - Transglobe owns the red towers to the north and there is low rise commerical further south including large parking lots.
Post #26329
02-20-2011 09:10 AM
panamaniac

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Are there any other buildings of that size in the Region that used precast panels?
Post #26334
02-20-2011 12:13 PM
SP!RE

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Precast = ten times better than stucco, IMO.
Post #26345
02-20-2011 03:38 PM
BigCityBoy

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Quote Originally Posted by panamaniac View Post
Are there any other buildings of that size in the Region that used precast panels?
Don't know, panamaniac, but i'm sure there are (i know the Westmount Grand is using 2 storey-high interior pre-cast walls for some interior walls).
Post #26347
02-20-2011 03:54 PM
benjaminbach

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Here is an interesting article (PDF) on how "How Precast Meets High-Rise Challenges"

http://www.clarkpacific.com/download...s_HighRise.pdf

(Clark Pacific is a firm that specializes in pre-cast building systems, fyi)

“Based on our experience on a wide range of building types, it appears that precast is most appropriate for exterior cladding where there is a desire to conceal interior uses,” Manus says. “When a greater percentage of glass is desired, the economy of precast is diminished. But where there is a desire to create a masonr y-like condition, such as in an historic context, precast is a very logical material.”
“Precast panels are often a good choice because of their ability to control costs and provide the richness of texture and pattern that you expect from a residential building. For us, the challenge is always to turn the panel into something that expresses lightness and delicacy.