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Gov. Jan Brewer of Arizona signed the nation’s toughest bill on illegal immigration into law on Friday. Its aim is to identify, prosecute and deport illegal immigrants...

The law, which proponents and critics alike said was the broadest and strictest immigration measure in generations, would make the failure to carry immigration documents a crime and give the police broad power to detain anyone suspected of being in the country illegally. Opponents have called it an open invitation for harassment and discrimination against Hispanics regardless of their citizenship status.

The political debate leading up to Ms. Brewer’s decision, and Mr. Obama’s criticism of the law — presidents very rarely weigh in on state legislation — underscored the power of the immigration debate in states along the Mexican border. It presaged the polarizing arguments that await the president and Congress as they take up the issue nationally.

Mexico’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement that it was worried about the rights of its citizens and relations with Arizona. Cardinal Roger M. Mahony of Los Angeles said the authorities’ ability to demand documents was like “Nazism.”...

Post #7254 05-20-2010 01:27 PM CompassRose Junior Member Date Mar 2010 Location UpTown and downtown, for the last 20 years. Posts 23	Originally Posted by Razzie Marble Slab is actually US based. http://www.marbleslab.com/about-us/ Cold Stone, mind you, is not only US-based, but Arizona-based. http://www.coldstonecreamery.com/abo...old_stone.html
Post #7263 05-20-2010 05:55 PM Duke-of-Waterloo Construction Moderator Date Jan 2010 Location Waterloo, ON Posts 391	Originally Posted by CompassRose Cold Stone, mind you, is not only US-based, but Arizona-based. http://www.coldstonecreamery.com/abo...old_stone.html Which makes it worse?
Post #7273 05-20-2010 09:55 PM CompassRose Junior Member Date Mar 2010 Location UpTown and downtown, for the last 20 years. Posts 23	Well, not that it comes up much here, but I'm not going to be deliberately supporting Arizona or any business that contributes to Arizona via taxation, at this time. You are aware of what they're up to there, aren't you?
Post #7275 05-20-2010 10:34 PM IEFBR14 Senior Member Date Mar 2010 Location H2OWC Posts 376	Originally Posted by CompassRose I'm not going to be deliberately supporting Arizona or any business that contributes to Arizona via taxation, at this time. You are aware of what they're up to there, aren't you? So if the Ontario (or federal) government did something equally stupid you'd be OK with boycotting RIM because they contribute to Ontario (or federal) taxation?
Post #7277 05-20-2010 10:47 PM Urbanomicon Transportation & Infrastructure Moderator Date Feb 2010 Location Kitchener, Ontario Posts 404 "Only the insane have the strength enough to prosper. Only those that prosper may truly judge what is sane."	Originally Posted by CompassRose You are aware of what they're up to there, aren't you? I'm afraid I'm not up to date on my Arizona news. Can someone give me the Coles Notes version?
Post #7278 05-20-2010 10:49 PM CompassRose Junior Member Date Mar 2010 Location UpTown and downtown, for the last 20 years. Posts 23	I might. It would depend on a lot of things. Presumably, as a resident of Ontario, I would have more avenues at my disposal to express my displeasure. However, in this case, I see no reason to go out of my way to send any of my money their way whatsoever.
Post #7279 05-20-2010 10:53 PM CompassRose Junior Member Date Mar 2010 Location UpTown and downtown, for the last 20 years. Posts 23	Arizona vs. Latinos, Coles Notes version: Arizona enacts stringent immigration law Arizona grades teachers on fluency Arizona legislature passes bill to curb "chauvanism" (sic) in ethnic studies programs
Post #7280 05-20-2010 11:02 PM Urbanomicon Transportation & Infrastructure Moderator Date Feb 2010 Location Kitchener, Ontario Posts 404 "Only the insane have the strength enough to prosper. Only those that prosper may truly judge what is sane."	Originally Posted by CompassRose Arizona vs. Latinos, Coles Notes version: Arizona enacts stringent immigration law Arizona grades teachers on fluency Arizona legislature passes bill to curb "chauvanism" (sic) in ethnic studies programs Wow. Ok, I see what you mean.
Post #7281 05-20-2010 11:08 PM garthdanlor Senior Member Date Mar 2010 Location Uglyopolis Posts 152	Originally Posted by IEFBR14 So if the Ontario (or federal) government did something equally stupid you'd be OK with boycotting RIM because they contribute to Ontario (or federal) taxation? Absolutely, I'd expect other people and political jurisdictions to boycott Ontario industries (not just RIM) if we did something vile like that. Just like I expect Canada to be boycotted because off the seal industry, the tar sands, etc.
Post #7283 05-20-2010 11:17 PM IEFBR14 Senior Member Date Mar 2010 Location H2OWC Posts 376	What rock have you been hiding behind? This isn't just Arizona news but international news. Google Arizona immigration law and behold the 1,000s of news items. Here's the NY Times from 24th April when the law was enacted: Arizona Enacts Stringent Law on Immigration Gov. Jan Brewer of Arizona signed the nation’s toughest bill on illegal immigration into law on Friday. Its aim is to identify, prosecute and deport illegal immigrants... The law, which proponents and critics alike said was the broadest and strictest immigration measure in generations, would make the failure to carry immigration documents a crime and give the police broad power to detain anyone suspected of being in the country illegally. Opponents have called it an open invitation for harassment and discrimination against Hispanics regardless of their citizenship status. The political debate leading up to Ms. Brewer’s decision, and Mr. Obama’s criticism of the law — presidents very rarely weigh in on state legislation — underscored the power of the immigration debate in states along the Mexican border. It presaged the polarizing arguments that await the president and Congress as they take up the issue nationally. Mexico’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement that it was worried about the rights of its citizens and relations with Arizona. Cardinal Roger M. Mahony of Los Angeles said the authorities’ ability to demand documents was like “Nazism.”... I can certainly see why people are incensed about this law, but I doubt that boycotting Cold Stone will have any effect.

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