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Post #9394 02-04-2010 01:58 PM jay Senior Moderator	HSBC Uptown 136 King Street South, Waterloo Ridgewood Holdings Inc. Council Meeting Agenda: Monday, June 21, 2010 \| Packet Page 126
Post #9395 02-04-2010 02:19 PM jay Senior Moderator Bauer Lofts, Waterloo Joined Dec 2009 738 posts	I emailed the listing agent and he told me that "it's not public yet".
Post #9396 02-04-2010 03:00 PM Spokes Senior Moderator Kitchener Joined Dec 2009 5347 posts	Wow, that was quick. Hopefully it's something good. Id still love to see that property sold to a developer though.
Post #9397 02-04-2010 04:13 PM Section ThirtyOne Food & Retail Moderator Waterloo, ON Joined Feb 2010 216 posts	Originally Posted by Bauer123 Quiznos in Uptown just got leased out and they are fencing it off today. Any news on who leased this or what is going on? Which one? The one in the old Stanley Burger by the University, or...?
Post #9398 02-04-2010 04:55 PM Duke-of-Waterloo Senior Moderator Waterloo Joined Jan 2010 1036 posts	Originally Posted by Section ThirtyOne Which one? The one in the old Stanley Burger by the University, or...? King & William - beside Ali Baba.
Post #9401 02-05-2010 03:43 PM mpd618 City Member Waterloo, ON Joined Jan 2010 877 posts	The fencing around the parking lot of the old Quizno's at King & William in Waterloo has a notice about a minor variance application. The plan is a two story building with 7 instead of 15 parking spots, and with less setback than required.
Post #9402 02-05-2010 04:08 PM WatDot Town Member Waterloo Joined Feb 2010 254 posts	Originally Posted by mpd618 The fencing around the parking lot of the old Quizno's at King & William in Waterloo has a notice about a minor variance application. The plan is a two story building with 7 instead of 15 parking spots, and with less setback than required. Less setback is good, means it will maintain the "feel" of Uptown. Two storeys sucks, as that's the minimum and parking means the building will not be a complete in fill of that space. Pity, the shape of that lot could have paved the way to a neat building that would be a "pillar" of Uptown when approaching from the south.
Post #9404 02-05-2010 04:41 PM mpd618 City Member Waterloo, ON Joined Jan 2010 877 posts	Originally Posted by WatDot Less setback is good, means it will maintain the "feel" of Uptown. Two storeys sucks, as that's the minimum and parking means the building will not be a complete in fill of that space. Pity, the shape of that lot could have paved the way to a neat building that would be a "pillar" of Uptown when approaching from the south. I'd love to know whose clever idea was it to tear down the distinctive corner building that used to be there (link to PDF bird's eye view map from 1891).
Post #9406 02-05-2010 05:29 PM Spokes Senior Moderator Kitchener Joined Dec 2009 5347 posts	Originally Posted by WatDot Less setback is good, means it will maintain the "feel" of Uptown. Two storeys sucks, as that's the minimum and parking means the building will not be a complete in fill of that space. Pity, the shape of that lot could have paved the way to a neat building that would be a "pillar" of Uptown when approaching from the south. Ya that's really too bad. Hopefully the reduced parking will be on the William st. side of the triangular lot. Originally Posted by mpd618 I'd love to know whose clever idea was it to tear down the distinctive corner building that used to be there (link to PDF bird's eye view map from 1891). Ya someone screwed that one up!
Post #9409 02-06-2010 01:32 PM WatDot Town Member Waterloo Joined Feb 2010 254 posts	Originally Posted by mpd618 I'd love to know whose clever idea was it to tear down the distinctive corner building that used to be there (link to PDF bird's eye view map from 1891). Unfortunately your link isn't working for me. Would love to see. But it probably was what I am thinking. A distinctive corner building is very much needed there. Four storeys would be nice...
Post #9411 02-06-2010 01:50 PM mpd618 City Member Waterloo, ON Joined Jan 2010 877 posts	Originally Posted by WatDot Unfortunately your link isn't working for me. Would love to see. But it probably was what I am thinking. A distinctive corner building is very much needed there. Four storeys would be nice... Here's the right link.
Post #9413 02-06-2010 02:45 PM Spokes Senior Moderator Kitchener Joined Dec 2009 5347 posts	Originally Posted by mpd618 Here's the right link. Thanks for posting that! It's really interesting to see all of the old street names. And how many names Kitchener and Waterloo had in common
Post #9418 02-07-2010 09:26 AM UrbanWaterloo Senior Moderator Kitchener-Waterloo Joined Dec 2009 3581 posts Groundhog Day Meet-Up \| February 2nd 7-9PM @ KW Art Gallery	136 King Street South - February 6, 2010
Post #9486 04-05-2010 01:40 AM Urban_Enthusiast86 Town Member Joined Mar 2010 337 posts	The Quiznos at King and William streets that went vacant last year seems to have been sold. There is fencing up around the property.
Post #9499 04-15-2010 11:54 AM UrbanWaterloo Senior Moderator Kitchener-Waterloo Joined Dec 2009 3581 posts	136 King Street South - April 15, 2010
Post #9500 04-15-2010 04:39 PM Spokes Senior Moderator Kitchener Joined Dec 2009 5347 posts	Any idea what they were/are doing there?
Post #9501 04-16-2010 12:33 AM Duke-of-Waterloo Senior Moderator Waterloo Joined Jan 2010 1036 posts	Originally Posted by Spokes Any idea what they were/are doing there? If you mean in the picture, likely borehole samples for a Phase 1 environmental site assessment.
Post #9502 04-16-2010 08:12 AM Spokes Senior Moderator Kitchener Joined Dec 2009 5333 posts	Originally Posted by Duke-of-Waterloo If you mean in the picture, likely borehole samples for a Phase 1 environmental site assessment. Both in the picture and for the project in general.
Post #9503 04-16-2010 08:40 AM jay Senior Moderator Bauer Lofts, Waterloo Joined Dec 2009 737 posts	When I emailed DTZ a month ago or so they told me no public details are being made known to the public at this date.
Post #12878 02-05-2010 08:39 PM jay Senior Moderator Bauer Lofts, Waterloo Joined Dec 2009 738 posts	I'm real curious on what is going on the Quiznos corner that would be 2 storys with reduced parking....I hope whatever it is looks nice.
Post #12879 02-07-2010 10:00 AM Spokes Senior Moderator Kitchener Joined Dec 2009 5347 posts	Glad to see lots of action on King Street these days. Hopefully it all turns into high quality development.
Post #12882 02-04-2010 01:58 PM jay Senior Moderator Bauer Lofts, Waterloo Joined Dec 2009 738 posts	Quiznos in Uptown just got leased out and they are fencing it off today. Any news on who leased this or what is going on?
Post #18649 11-11-2010 02:25 PM Duke-of-Waterloo Senior Moderator Waterloo Joined Jan 2010 1036 posts	November 11, 2010
Post #21744 12-26-2010 11:20 AM UrbanWaterloo Senior Moderator Kitchener-Waterloo Joined Dec 2009 3578 posts Groundhog Day Meet-Up \| February 2nd 7-9PM @ KW Art Gallery	December 25, 2010
Post #21750 12-26-2010 01:59 PM SP!RE Town Member Toronto Joined Apr 2010 142 posts	In person, the precast looks much cheaper . For such a small building on a corner, with a distinctive Flatiron shape, you'd think they could have paid some bricklayers to do something along the lines of the LCBO across the street. Either way, it will look better once windows go up. The first two levels look alright, it's the third level that I don't like as much.
Post #22017 12-31-2010 12:01 AM Spokes Senior Moderator Kitchener Joined Dec 2009 5315 posts	So this structure being built out of steel as opposed to concrete made me wonder....why one as opposed to the other? Is it a height issue? You can use steel to a certain point but not past it? Or cost?
Post #22019 12-31-2010 12:21 AM Duke-of-Waterloo Senior Moderator Waterloo Joined Jan 2010 1029 posts	Originally Posted by Spokes So this structure being built out of steel as opposed to concrete made me wonder....why one as opposed to the other? Is it a height issue? You can use steel to a certain point but not past it? Or cost? There can be many reasons. Reinforced Concrete is much more expensive than steel. Steel is much more flexible in all environments for construction, whereas concrete takes more planning in terms of average temperatures for curing. If a concrete structure is poured in the winter, then the building needs to be tarped off and heated. It can also be a simple matter as the current commodity price in the market for iron/ore vs. aggregates. Height is not an issue. The Bay Adelaide Centre in Toronto was constructed with a slender concrete core, surrounded by a structural steel skeleton (http://www.peri-usa.com/files/pdf3/p...2009_72dpi.pdf [page 10]). Also, The Bow in Calgary (currently U/C) is a very extreme example of a skyscraper constructed mainly of steel.
Post #22024 12-31-2010 09:51 AM IEFBR14 Transportation Moderator H2OWC Joined Mar 2010 967 posts	Originally Posted by Spokes why one as opposed to the other? Another reason: the name of the construction company. In German, Stahl means steel and Stahle, actually Stähle, is the plural, steels. What else would they use?
Post #22858 01-15-2011 12:13 PM UrbanWaterloo Senior Moderator Kitchener-Waterloo Joined Dec 2009 3578 posts Groundhog Day Meet-Up \| February 2nd 7-9PM @ KW Art Gallery	January 13, 2011
Post #22859 01-15-2011 12:22 PM BuildingScout Town Member Joined Jul 2010 319 posts	This is such an improvement over the eye-sore luncheon (Subway, Java, Quizno's, etc) that used to be there before.
Post #22861 01-15-2011 12:42 PM benjaminbach Town Member Waterloo Joined Oct 2010 217 posts Benjamin Bach, Sales Rep & Director at KW Commercial \| Read my real estate investment blog Not intended to solicit clients or properties under contract.	I agree - Ridgewood has done a great job with this corner
Post #22869 01-15-2011 08:17 PM Spokes Senior Moderator Kitchener Joined Dec 2009 5315 posts	Ya I can't wait to see what the windows they're going to use will look like.
Post #24109 01-29-2011 04:33 PM Pheidippides Hamlet Member Joined Oct 2010 12 posts	Windows are in now:
Post #24119 01-29-2011 06:09 PM Spokes Senior Moderator Kitchener Joined Dec 2009 5315 posts Groundhog Day Meet-Up \| February 2nd 7-9PM @ KW Art Gallery	Thanks for posting these! Looks good.
Post #24134 01-30-2011 12:34 AM Urbanomicon Senior Moderator Kitchener, Ontario Joined Feb 2010 1007 posts "Only the insane have the strength enough to prosper. Only those that prosper may truly judge what is sane."	That is going to be a sharp looking building. I can see it becoming a landmark in Uptown Waterloo.
Post #24157 01-30-2011 12:36 PM SP!RE Town Member Toronto Joined Apr 2010 142 posts	The faux stone is nice but the third floor looks crappy to me.
Post #24159 01-30-2011 12:46 PM DHLawrence Town Member Joined Mar 2010 419 posts	It isn't ideal but it gives the building a suggestion of history, as if the third floor and entry tower were added as the business grew. They meant well, even if it wasn't perfect.
Post #24161 01-30-2011 01:15 PM ViewFromThe42 Village Member Waterloo, ON Joined Dec 2010 63 posts Eventually, you can't go on not caring. You realize you have a voice.	Well the original design was for two storeys plus a basement, so that might explain the split visual between the 2nd and 3rd floor. I think I'll like the building, but I still wish there were more places of interest and to gather along this stretch. Still far too many banks and stores that don't invite casual customers in. But if the Erb to Central renovations go towards more pedestrian friendly designs, perhaps this would help.
Post #24162 01-30-2011 01:34 PM Spokes Senior Moderator Kitchener Joined Dec 2009 5315 posts Groundhog Day Meet-Up \| February 2nd 7-9PM @ KW Art Gallery	Originally Posted by SP!RE The faux stone is nice but the third floor looks crappy to me. Why? Not arguing with you, just wondering what you're thinking.
Post #24163 01-30-2011 01:34 PM Spokes Senior Moderator Kitchener Joined Dec 2009 5315 posts Groundhog Day Meet-Up \| February 2nd 7-9PM @ KW Art Gallery	Originally Posted by ViewFromThe42 Well the original design was for two storeys plus a basement, so that might explain the split visual between the 2nd and 3rd floor. I think I'll like the building, but I still wish there were more places of interest and to gather along this stretch. Still far too many banks and stores that don't invite casual customers in. But if the Erb to Central renovations go towards more pedestrian friendly designs, perhaps this would help. Which original design was that?
Post #24164 01-30-2011 02:19 PM ViewFromThe42 Village Member Waterloo, ON Joined Dec 2010 63 posts Eventually, you can't go on not caring. You realize you have a voice.	I believe that, going through notes from one of the city council meetings, I had read that it was originally supposed to be just two storeys with a basement. When they decided to move all floors up by one, it saved some digging and water related considerations, but bringing the basement floor above ground meant that its square footage had to be calculated differently with respect to the parking requirements for the building. The developers argued that since it had been approved previously, and no change to the use was being made, merely to the elevation of each floor, that it should not be required to provide more parking, and I believe that this exception was granted.