Wonderful Waterloo Archive

This site is maintained by Sam Nabi as a record of the vibrant Wonderful Waterloo community, which was taken offline in 2014. This site is a partial archive, containing some posts from 2009-2013. To read more about the recovery effort and access the data in a machine-readable format, check out the GitHub page.

Small Uptown Waterloo Construction

Post #9360
12-26-2009 09:43 AM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Small Uptown Waterloo Construction
For general news and/or rumors that are small enough they don't require their own threads.

Project List Last Update
Sobara Law (31 Union Street East) September 17, 2010
48 Moore Avenue South January 13, 2011
Bethel Chapel (16 Laurel Street) January 13, 2011
Waterloo Hotel Basement (2 King Street North) June 21, 2010
Cripple Creek (47 Union Street East) September 17, 2010
YNCU (168 King Street South) December 25, 2010
Post #9361
12-30-2009 08:52 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
 Council has approved a 5 storey mixed use building at 188 King St. South

Council notes: http://www.waterloo.ca/Portals/57ad7...il_Meeting.pdf (p. 38)

--

Great to see some more density along King, and mixed use at that! The only downfall I see to this development is that it doesn't include the corner property as well. That's going to result in when the corner property gets redeveloped that it'll be rather thin as well.
Post #9368
01-09-2010 05:07 PM
jay
Moderator
Bauer Lofts, Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
665 posts
 The Red Cross building on King and Allen is up for sale. It's a shame 188 King already got approved, they could have made a big development with that much land.
Post #9369
01-09-2010 11:14 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
 Ya that is a shame. I guess it's too late to amend it (if they bought it)

I am a fan of the 188 development though. Hopefully that corner lot gets redeveloped. Something semi-similar to 188 would be good. Maybe ~8 floors. That along with 188 would make for some good density, with some good variety of design.
Post #9370
01-11-2010 03:15 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
 Re: 36-40 Regina St. North. http://www.dtzbarnicke.com/Client/JJ...t_Q1_Q2_08.pdf

I like the design of it. I'd like the design of it even more with an extra floor or two. What it comes down to for me though is that there's no way they should consider this if it's not on the corner. By allowing this, with the size of those corner lots, it ensures that they stay single family homes or lodging houses. I just don't think they're deep enough to house a substantial development. Now I'd love the see this turned into an L shaped development on the corner with parking hidden inside the L. (That is if they are dead set on having surface parking.)
Post #9372
01-23-2010 02:33 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by Spokes View Post
Re: 36-40 Regina St. North. http://www.dtzbarnicke.com/Client/JJ...t_Q1_Q2_08.pdf

I like the design of it. I'd like the design of it even more with an extra floor or two. What it comes down to for me though is that there's no way they should consider this if it's not on the corner. By allowing this, with the size of those corner lots, it ensures that they stay single family homes or lodging houses. I just don't think they're deep enough to house a substantial development. Now I'd love the see this turned into an L shaped development on the corner with parking hidden inside the L. (That is if they are dead set on having surface parking.)
This has broken ground and is now underway. As there's no underground parking they were able to start the foundation with no major excavation.

While I'm still not a huge fan of this project, I'm warming to it. I get the impression that all the parking will be behind the unit, which I'm happy about.
Post #9373
01-23-2010 02:37 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by Bauer123 View Post
The Red Cross building on King and Allen is up for sale. It's a shame 188 King already got approved, they could have made a big development with that much land.
The more I see the Red Cross lot, I think they can still do a pretty decent development on it. The parking lot is quite big which makes the lot bigger than I remembered. Fingers crossed
Post #9374
01-25-2010 09:15 PM
RangersFan
Sports & Recreation Moderator
Kitchener
Joined Jan 2010
748 posts
 I seen a building under construction on Union St somewhere between Weber and King st. Does anyone know what I am talking about and what is happening there? It may just be a new house I am not sure.
Post #9375
01-25-2010 09:27 PM
mpd618
City Member
Waterloo, ON
Joined Jan 2010
948 posts
Quote Originally Posted by leaffan View Post
I seen a building under construction on Union St somewhere between Weber and King st. Does anyone know what I am talking about and what is happening there? It may just be a new house I am not sure.
That's probably the addition to the Bauer Estate at 31 Union St.
Post #9376
01-25-2010 09:29 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
 I saw that too. It's Blaze Property's new property "Cripple Creek" at 47 Union St. East - http://www.blazeproperties.ca/
Post #9377
01-26-2010 01:33 AM
RangersFan
Sports & Recreation Moderator
Kitchener
Joined Jan 2010
748 posts
 Thanks Spokes I am pretty sure thats it.
Post #9379
01-26-2010 03:12 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
 The Office Space above Coffee Culture Uptown is renting. I like the high ceilings and the brick wall adds a nice touch (just too bad there wasn't even more).

31 King Street North, Waterloo
Rental Rate:$18 CAD/SF/Year
1,953 sf
Post #9381
01-26-2010 04:13 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by UrbanWaterloo View Post
The Office Space above Coffee Culture Uptown is renting. I like the high ceilings and the brick wall adds a nice touch (just too bad there wasn't even more).

31 King Street North, Waterloo
Rental Rate:$18 CAD/SF/Year
1,953 sf
That looks fantastic inside! I had no idea it was like that! Recently renovated?
Post #9382
01-29-2010 12:57 PM
Duke-of-Waterloo
Metropolis Member
Waterloo
Joined Jan 2010
1000 posts
 I was at the Uptown Starbucks this morning, and noticed that the "Restaurant Opportunity" signs at the vacant unit across the alley way are now gone. This is where the Scotiabank was rumored to relocate to make way for Moxies. Does anyone know anything about this?
Post #9383
01-29-2010 01:21 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by Duke-of-Waterloo View Post
I was at the Uptown Starbucks this morning, and noticed that the "Restaurant Opportunity" signs at the vacant unit across the alley way are now gone. This is where the Scotiabank was rumored to relocate to make way for Moxies. Does anyone know anything about this?
Last I heard was it was still happening, but the timeline was for both of them to be in their new locations by 2010, early and late in the year. I'll get my hopes up more when work starts for the new scotiabank. That's a good sign though that the sign is gone.
Post #9384
01-29-2010 02:12 PM
jay
Moderator
Bauer Lofts, Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
665 posts
 I emailed Moxies a couple weeks ago and they haven't picked a location yet. Hopefully they decided on uptown.
Post #9403
02-05-2010 04:33 PM
Duke-of-Waterloo
Metropolis Member
Waterloo
Joined Jan 2010
1000 posts
 The permanent fence for an outdoor patio at the restaurant unit beside Starbucks Uptown was being removed today. This is another positive sign that Scotiabank is relocating here.
Post #9407
02-05-2010 05:31 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by Duke-of-Waterloo View Post
The permanent fence for an outdoor patio at the restaurant unit beside Starbucks Uptown was being removed today. This is another positive sign that Scotiabank is relocating here.
That's great news! And hopefully that means Moxies (or another restaurant) will replace it.
Post #9408
02-05-2010 08:39 PM
jay
Moderator
Bauer Lofts, Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
665 posts
 Hopefully it is Moxies replacing it. I wonder why this took so long to transpire, I'm assuming the tenant that would be replacing Scotiabank held it up.
Post #9410
02-06-2010 01:36 PM
WatDot
Town Member
Waterloo
Joined Feb 2010
259 posts
 Moxies probably had to finalize somethings, maybe liquor license or something along those lines. I can't see First Gulf putting the information they did up without an expressed committment.
Post #9412
02-06-2010 02:00 PM
Duke-of-Waterloo
Metropolis Member
Waterloo
Joined Jan 2010
1000 posts
Quote Originally Posted by WatDot View Post
I can't see First Gulf putting the information they did up without an expressed committment.
They probably only have what is known as an "offer to lease", which in commercial real-estate terms is what usually comes before a formal lease agreement is signed. That's probably why Moxie's name was on the floor plan, but it's not official or firmed up yet. Maybe a formal lease agreement has now been signed, which is why First Gulf worked to remove the fence yesterday.
Post #9414
02-06-2010 02:46 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by Duke-of-Waterloo View Post
They probably only have what is known as an "offer to lease", which in commercial real-estate terms is what usually comes before a formal lease agreement is signed. That's probably why Moxie's name was on the floor plan, but it's not official or firmed up yet. Maybe a formal lease agreement has now been signed, which is why First Gulf worked to remove the fence yesterday.
Either way, if the removal of the fence means ScotiaBank is indeed moving (which I hope it is) it means that spot in WTS is now open for a restaurant, Moxies or other (although I hope it's Moxies.)
Post #9415
02-06-2010 06:36 PM
watmer
Hamlet Member
Joined Feb 2010
3 posts
Quote Originally Posted by WatDot View Post
Moxies probably had to finalize somethings, maybe liquor license or something along those lines. I can't see First Gulf putting the information they did up without an expressed committment.
Originally, First Gulf made a deal with the City of Waterloo. They traded for a parcel of property where LCBO now is for the property immediately in front of Scotiabank so the City could complete the Civic Square. Moxies has full intention to move in but the hang up has been that they want to develop a patio in the front which is now City property. I believe they have been in negotiations to get this done. With the recent activity, I would assume that they have now rectified this? I believe a Moxie's here with a patio ovelooking the square will help a great deal in improving the look and feel of the square!
Post #9416
02-06-2010 08:33 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
 I really hope they work a deal out to get the patio onto the square. I've been thinking since it opened how perfect a patio would be.
Post #9419
02-07-2010 09:44 AM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
 Pathway Between 95 & 115 King Street South - February 6, 2010





95 King Street South - February 6, 2010
Post #9420
02-07-2010 10:00 AM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
 Glad to see lots of action on King Street these days. Hopefully it all turns into high quality development.
Post #9423
02-20-2010 11:15 AM
Greg Moore
Urban Issues Moderator
Belmont Villiage
Joined Dec 2009
226 posts
Twitter - @the_g_spot 		There are a couple of interesting listings in The Real Estate Book (www.realestatebook.com)

187 King St N (corner of Bricker)

More interestingly, another is listed as 39 beds, 26 baths, for $1,995,000 but is mapped at N2L 6C2. That's the Canbar property.
Post #9424
02-20-2010 11:36 AM
jay
Moderator
Bauer Lofts, Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
665 posts
 That townhouse development is weird. I wonder if Auburn is trying to sell the townhouse portion of the project to generate cash.

Are the units definitely for sale? I guess I just always thought they might be rentals when in the council papers it said the project would "provide opportunity for affordable/student housing"
I assumed they would be sold but that quote does make it seem like it could be rentals. If it is rentals i hope they design the units well.
Post #9425
02-20-2010 11:48 AM
Duke-of-Waterloo
Metropolis Member
Waterloo
Joined Jan 2010
1000 posts
Quote Originally Posted by kwliving View Post
More interestingly, another is listed as 39 beds, 26 baths, for $1,995,000 but is mapped at N2L 6C2. That's the Canbar property.
LOL - now THAT'S a castle!
Post #9426
02-20-2010 05:07 PM
Urbanomicon
City Member
Kitchener, Ontario
Joined Feb 2010
955 posts
"Only the insane have the strength enough to prosper. Only those that prosper may truly judge what is sane."
Quote Originally Posted by Duke-of-Waterloo View Post
LOL - now THAT'S a castle!

I think it's more like a hotel!
Post #9427
02-20-2010 06:52 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
 I think N2L6c2's location is a typo as the description has it sounding like a previous development (ie. $'s spent in upgrades). I think what happened is they used the agent's office postal code instead.

Waterloo, Ontario N2L6c2
http://www.realestatebook.com/homes/...loo-ON-N2L6C2/
$1,995,000 | 39 beds | 26 baths
Image: http://www.realestatebook.com/ImageP...f7a8bb728e.jpg
Property Information
$1,995,000~ INVESTORS 13-3 bdrm townhouse complex close to U of W. Over $400,000 spent in upgrades & improvements, REDUCED $250,000 - 7% CAP. EXCL

Presented By
Nick Jamal
Remax Twin City Realty, Brokerage - Waterloo
83 Erb St W
WATERLOO ON N2L6C2
519 - 885 - 0200
Post #9428
02-21-2010 08:27 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by Bauer123 View Post
I assumed they would be sold but that quote does make it seem like it could be rentals. If it is rentals i hope they design the units well.
I hope so too. The building looks good though so I doubt (or hope) they would skimp on the interiors.
Post #9437
03-02-2010 09:12 AM
urbandreamer
Town Member
Joined Mar 2010
138 posts
 Is that Blaze Properties Cripple Creek (weird name btw) going to be lowrise townhouses or a midrise apartment building? Photos appreciated.
Post #9442
03-07-2010 09:16 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
48 Moore Avenue South
WAT Council Packet August 24, 2009: http://www.waterloo.ca/Portals/57ad7...il_Meeting.pdf
Page 143: Momani Management and Consulting Inc has submitted an application to demolish the existing dwelling on the property known municipally as 48 Moore Avenue South (see Inset Map). The dwelling at 48 Moore Avenue South is currently unoccupied but was previously used as a private residence and a day care centre. The demolition has been requested to facilitate the redevelopment of the property in conjunction with Official Plan Amendment No. 76 and Zoning By-law Amendment NO. Z-09-05. The applicant is proposing to construct a new 3-storey mixed use building consisting of office, medical clinic and medi-spa uses.

Renders: Page 149


Site Plan: Page 148
Post #9458
03-15-2010 12:41 PM
Urbanomicon
City Member
Kitchener, Ontario
Joined Feb 2010
955 posts
"Only the insane have the strength enough to prosper. Only those that prosper may truly judge what is sane." 		Waterloo to get secure, sheltered bike parking

March 14, 2010
By Brent Davis, Record staff
http://news.therecord.com/News/Local/article/684364

WATERLOO — Secure, sheltered bicycle parking is coming to Waterloo, thanks to a project co-funded by the city and the provincial government.

The $100,000 plan will culminate with the construction of one or more covered bike shelters, likely next year. A consultant will be hired to determine locations where demand is greatest, and identify the size and type of shelter or shelters required.

Although the city already provides a number of bicycle parking spots, they’re essentially racks that aren’t protected from the elements, said the city’s director of transportation, Phil Hewitson.

“People don’t want to get their bikes stolen or vandalized,” he said.

Hewitson said interested groups such as bicycle clubs and shops will be surveyed, and a public information session will likely be held to solicit ideas. The two levels of government will split the project’s cost.

Increasing the use of alternative forms of transportation, such as cycling, public transit and walking, is a theme in the city’s official plan and transportation master plan. Waterloo’s transportation and trails advisory committee has said a premier bike parking structure downtown is needed.

The provincial program providing the grant was developed to support municipal plans that help to reduce traffic congestion and greenhouse gas emissions.

“For every bicycle on the road, there’s one less car,” Hewitson said.

Initially, the city will look to install the structures on land it owns. The project will also develop a strategy for installing parking facilities on private land. In addition, the initiative will look at producing a public bikeways and trails route map.

bdavis@therecord.com
Post #9459
03-15-2010 12:59 PM
RangersFan
Sports & Recreation Moderator
Kitchener
Joined Jan 2010
748 posts
 sheltered bike parking is an awesome idea, I think location(s) for a project like this is key.
Post #9460
03-17-2010 06:31 PM
RangersFan
Sports & Recreation Moderator
Kitchener
Joined Jan 2010
748 posts
 Yesturday when walking by the Waterloo Hotel I noticed that the basement was being renovated (new walls/drywall, floors etc)
Post #9461
03-17-2010 07:00 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by leaffan View Post
Yesturday when walking by the Waterloo Hotel I noticed that the basement was being renovated (new walls/drywall, floors etc)
Along Erb?
Post #9462
03-18-2010 12:11 AM
panamaniac
Town Member
Joined Mar 2010
414 posts
Quote Originally Posted by leaffan View Post
Yesturday when walking by the Waterloo Hotel I noticed that the basement was being renovated (new walls/drywall, floors etc)
The Loo Two?
Post #9463
03-18-2010 01:16 AM
RangersFan
Sports & Recreation Moderator
Kitchener
Joined Jan 2010
748 posts
 Yes this was along Erb
Post #9482
03-30-2010 11:42 AM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
 Sobara Law - 31 Union Street East

Newsletter Winter 2009: http://www.sorbaralaw.com/pdf/sorbar..._winter_09.pdf

Around the Firm continued...(Page 7)
We are also excited to formally announce our plans to relocate our Kitchener office in the coming years. The firm has acquired the 1.5 acre Bauer Estate located at 31 Union Street, Waterloo and will be working over the next year to make the property the new home of our K-W office. After many months of working with the City of Waterloo together with our planners, architects and other consultants, Waterloo City Council approved our applications for Official Plan Amendment and Zone Change on December 16, 2008. Both Council and the area residents appreciated our efforts to preserve the architectural and heritage features of the site.
The Bauer Estate consists of a 8,200 sq. ft. century home that was originally built for the Seagram family but was purchased by the Bauer family as their residence in 1965. We will be maintaining the original home and constructing a large addition that will be connected to the home by a glass causeway.
When completed, our new location will have a total building floor area of almost 27,000 sq. ft. with entrances off both Union and Herbert Streets and ample on-site parking. This new location will give the firm plenty of room to expand so as to better serve the needs of our clients. We have included two elevation drawings and the draft site plan to give you an idea of what to expect.








March 29, 2010
Post #9483
03-30-2010 12:11 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
 Cripple Creek (47 Union Street East, Waterloo) - March 29, 2010
Post #9492
04-07-2010 03:29 PM
urbandreamer
Town Member
Joined Mar 2010
138 posts
 Re: Sorbara Law. According to a source close to the firm, the back lot parking will eventually turn into townhouses with u/g parking. That's in the 5-10 year future.
Post #9513
05-07-2010 08:17 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
 Sobara Law - 31 Union Street East - May 6, 2010
Post #9514
05-07-2010 08:24 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
 Cripple Creek (47 Union Street East, Waterloo) - May 6, 2010
Post #9522
05-13-2010 10:30 PM
jay
Moderator
Bauer Lofts, Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
665 posts
 the house at William and King (the side lane way) is sold now. Across from Quiznos
Post #9535
05-28-2010 05:19 AM
RangersFan
Sports & Recreation Moderator
Kitchener
Joined Jan 2010
748 posts
 Residents feel cheated after urban woodlot is cut down
May 27, 2010 | By Terry Pender, Record staff

WATERLOO — The destruction of an urban woodlot on a historic property has left neighbouring homeowners fuming in the hot sun and calling for changes to how infill development is handled.

“The neighbourhood feels like we have been given a snow job,” Mary Anne Whittington, of 261 Herbert St., said. “We are feeling cheated.”

Nobody told nearby property owners that most of the mature trees that had been shading their backyards for decades would but cut down.

Whittington has lived in that house for 36 years and was initially relieved that a local law firm — Sorbara, Schumacher, McCann — had bought the historic mansion at 31 Union St. East.

That old house was owned at different times by two prominent families — the Seagrams and the Bauers. The law firm won over the neighbourhood because it was going to restore and maintain the historic building.

Now the sun beats down on her backyard with an intensity she’s never known before and that’s a big problem for Whittington, who runs a home-based daycare centre. Whittington can’t let young children play in the yard because provincial law says 45 per cent of the outdoor play area must be shaded.

“Normally on a hot day we would picnic outside, play in the pool and come in for a nap,” Whittington said.

The historic home faces Union Street on a large, L-shaped lot that also fronts on Herbert Street. It was covered with mature trees. The law firm needed an amendment to the city’s Official Plan to allow commercial offices in a neighbourhood zoned for low-density residential housing.

That’s when neighbouring property owners made their views clear at two public meetings in the fall of 2008. They supported the move if the mature trees were left in place and an old brick wall was left standing. They also wanted some buffering between their homes and the law offices.

The neighbours thought they had been heard.

“I was under the impression they were going to only take down trees that were not doing well,” Whittington said.

Whittington is supported by Barry Ralph, who lives at 263 Herbert St., who thought the residents concerns were taken seriously.

“We felt the developer was being fair and would do things in a way that would make everyone happy,” Ralph said. “The meetings were very positive.”

When Waterloo city councillors approved the changes to the Official Plan in December 2008, the staff report stated the new owners wanted to maintain a number of mature trees on the property. They would prepare a tree preservation plan and a landscape plan. The report said that existing mature trees along the side and rear boundary would be maintained.

But after the public meetings were held, the city and representatives of the law firm finalized plans for cutting down most of the trees. The nearby residents were not told.

“That is where, fundamentally, the process fell down,” Jeff Casello, of 259 Herbert St., said. “I am concerned about the process.”

When Casello asked why nearby homeowners were not informed about the final plans, he was told there are no laws or regulations that require city officials to share such information.

Casello, a University of Waterloo professor specializing in transportation planning and urban intensification, said that approach to planning is old fashioned and must change if city councils expect existing residents to support changes that add new uses to existing neighbourhoods.

It is anachronistic to think mature trees are disposable, Casello said.

Casello and his neighbours knew something was up when they heard chainsaws ripping through the trees at about 6:30 p.m. Monday. He tried to get contact someone at City Hall, but the offices had emptied for the day.

“They just simply cut down almost all the trees,” Casello said.

Coun. Diane Freeman is sympathetic to the residents concerns. Freeman said the city should adopt a new policy to communicate the final plans for infill projects to residents who have attended public meetings.

“I think that is a fair comment,” Freeman said of Casello’s concerns.

“If there is one positive that can come out of our hardship and loss, that’s it,” Casello said of policy change to keep residents better informed.

Scott Patterson, a planning consultant who represented the law firm, said the trees had to come down to make room for the parking lot, the grading of the site, stormwater management and to make room for a three-storey addition to the rear of the historic house.

“There was a tree-management plan prepared for the city,” Patterson said.

A large black walnut tree is being retained.

“I see that as a positive,” Patterson said.
Post #9811
06-27-2010 06:35 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
Quote Originally Posted by RangersFan View Post
Yesterday when walking by the Waterloo Hotel I noticed that the basement was being renovated (new walls/drywall, floors etc)
The Waterloo Hotel Basement (2 King Street North) - June 21, 2010
Post #10785
07-17-2010 12:55 AM
mpd618
City Member
Waterloo, ON
Joined Jan 2010
949 posts
Quote Originally Posted by jay View Post
Now if only they would start 188 king st s or 133 park.
The houses on the 133 Park site have been abandoned for a while now (though the grass is still mowed). I'm rather sad about the one on the corner - really neat-looking house, with even a heraldic shield over the entrance.
Post #10787
07-17-2010 09:00 AM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by jay View Post
Now if only they would start 188 king st s or 133 park.
And the Red Cross property. Is there a move out date that anyone knows of?
Post #10873
07-18-2010 05:19 PM
jay
Moderator
Bauer Lofts, Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
665 posts
 Not that I have heard of... I think the sale of Red Cross is holding up 188. I got a feeling they bought that lot also, because if they didn't I don't know why its taking so long to start 188.
Post #10877
07-18-2010 05:59 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by jay View Post
Not that I have heard of... I think the sale of Red Cross is holding up 188. I got a feeling they bought that lot also, because if they didn't I don't know why its taking so long to start 188.
That would be quite nice, I hope that's the case, but I'd be cool with two separate projects too.
Post #11974
08-01-2010 01:01 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
 48 Moore Avenue South - August 1, 2010
Post #11994
08-01-2010 05:02 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
 Cripple Creek (47 Union Street East) - August 1, 2010

"Unique Flats & Lofts coming October 2010, ranging from $995 to $1,200!!"
Flats: 775 sq ft | Lofts: 820 sq ft
http://www.blazeproperties.ca/index.php?id=6
Post #11997
08-01-2010 06:13 PM
Urban_Enthusiast86
Town Member
Joined Mar 2010
339 posts
 ^ That's a rather interesting looking development. Is it affordable housing?
Post #11998
08-01-2010 06:50 PM
DHLawrence
Town Member
Joined Mar 2010
457 posts
 Not starting at 995 a month!
Post #12001
08-01-2010 07:28 PM
Duke-of-Waterloo
Metropolis Member
Waterloo
Joined Jan 2010
1000 posts
 What is going on the corner of Erb & Moore? I think it's a dentists office or some professional practice, but could be wrong.
Post #12002
08-01-2010 08:07 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by DHLawrence View Post
Not starting at 995 a month!
Is that for a one bedroom? Or two?

Nevermind, for a one bedroom flat it looks like.
Post #12009
08-02-2010 07:43 AM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
Quote Originally Posted by Duke-of-Waterloo View Post
What is going on the corner of Erb & Moore?
That's this project:

Quote Originally Posted by UrbanWaterloo View Post
48 Moore Avenue South
WAT Council Packet August 24, 2009: http://www.waterloo.ca/Portals/57ad7...il_Meeting.pdf
Page 143: Momani Management and Consulting Inc has submitted an application to demolish the existing dwelling on the property known municipally as 48 Moore Avenue South (see Inset Map). The dwelling at 48 Moore Avenue South is currently unoccupied but was previously used as a private residence and a day care centre. The demolition has been requested to facilitate the redevelopment of the property in conjunction with Official Plan Amendment No. 76 and Zoning By-law Amendment NO. Z-09-05. The applicant is proposing to construct a new 3-storey mixed use building consisting of office, medical clinic and medi-spa uses.

Renders: Page 149
Post #12881
07-16-2010 01:35 PM
jay
Moderator
Bauer Lofts, Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
665 posts
 Good riddance to quiznos.

Now if only they would start 188 king st s or 133 park.
Post #14944
09-20-2010 10:00 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
48 Moore Avenue South - September 20, 2010
Post #14972
09-21-2010 08:03 AM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
 Sobara Law (31 Union Street East) - September 17, 2010
Post #15018
09-21-2010 01:13 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by WatDot View Post
Ya I thought the property was sold "conditionally" over a year ago.
I thought so too, the sign has said sold for a long time.
Post #15099
09-22-2010 06:25 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
Cripple Creek (47 Union Street East) - September 17, 2010
Post #15100
09-22-2010 07:57 PM
jay
Moderator
Bauer Lofts, Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
665 posts
 I like this project and how they incorporated the garage into the building.
Post #15102
09-22-2010 09:08 PM
eizenstriet
Hamlet Member
Joined Aug 2010
5 posts
 I like this whimsical building. I think it's going to generate smiles of approval from a lot of pedestrians on Union Street.

A tip of the hat to the developer and architect for trying something different.

The recent addition of the cookie cutter stacked brick retaining wall along the street doesn't match the Hogwarts charm of the building, but no use being picky.

Maybe designers are starting to play with textures a bit. I noticed that the mixed use building on Regina near Bridgeport has brick with a wavy contoured surface which gives the structure's skin some visual interest.

What a relief from the "painted styrofoam" abominations erupting on King Street North and Erb Street West. These have also spawned some misbegotten little ones on Union just East of King. I don't even want to flatter them by calling them "stucco", because true stucco has some texture.

I much prefer Cripple Creek.
Post #15103
09-22-2010 09:28 PM
Urban_Enthusiast86
Town Member
Joined Mar 2010
339 posts
 A wonderful modern example of the tasteful use of brick.
Post #15105
09-22-2010 09:55 PM
mpd618
City Member
Waterloo, ON
Joined Jan 2010
948 posts
 I love the windows and the waves of brick.
Post #15106
09-22-2010 10:24 PM
fin2limb
Hamlet Member
Kitchener, Ontario
Joined Jul 2010
46 posts
 Wow! What a trippy building!

I agree. It's nice to see developers trying something different and unique. I like it.
Post #15107
09-22-2010 10:40 PM
KevinL
City Member
West-South-West Kitchener
Joined May 2010
534 posts
My Flickr - My Facebook 		Very cool brickwork. It's great how one creative change to the usual way of doing things can make an average building into a true standout. Great stuff!
Post #15114
09-23-2010 08:25 AM
ruud
Hamlet Member
Joined May 2010
13 posts
 I've been watching this project everyday and this has to be by far the best designed and most interesting small building project this region has seen in years.

the sad thing is, it really didn't take too much... an attention to form & design and a few extra days to do the intricate brickwork. Why can't we make this project the standard?
Post #15122
09-23-2010 09:07 AM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
 I like this a lot! They really did a good job, and I like the incorporated garages too.

The only think I'd have done different would have been to have them face the street, and have a little alley behind to access the garages.

Maybe it deserves a Wonderful Waterloo Award?
Post #15124
09-23-2010 10:31 AM
Newgrad
Village Member
Kitchener
Joined May 2010
71 posts
 The brickwork on the front of that building is very interesting. It looks like reality is distorted on that section of th ewall. A very neat feature!
Post #15132
09-23-2010 12:37 PM
Greg Moore
Urban Issues Moderator
Belmont Villiage
Joined Dec 2009
226 posts
 The irony of the project being named Cripple Creek and the building being 100% inaccessible to a wheelchair is not lost on me. I'm not offended, but know people that would get their spokes in a knot.

I know the people that live next door. Not a pretty view, and now their back yard is on display. Their new property value = slightly higher than a pile of poop.
Post #16587
10-18-2010 05:09 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
 Your Neighbourhood Credit Union Uptown (168 King Street South) - October 16, 2010
Post #17219
10-25-2010 09:29 AM
kat
Hamlet Member
Joined Oct 2010
3 posts
 Momentum have also bought property on Euclid Avenue near Erb Street.
Post #17246
10-25-2010 12:10 PM
Greg Moore
Urban Issues Moderator
Belmont Villiage
Joined Dec 2009
226 posts
Twitter - @the_g_spot
Quote Originally Posted by kat View Post
Momentum have also bought property on Euclid Avenue near Erb Street.
I believe that will be the next area of choice for developers. The Mary-Allen neighborhood has a strong and vocal association that won't want big development encroaching on them. the Albert/King/Central area is (tragically) blocked from development by heritage designation. That leaves this area and Regina St.

There are some nice homes there, but it is so central, it would be a great area to develop, especially when BarrelYards becomes established.
Post #17293
10-25-2010 07:21 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by kat View Post
Momentum have also bought property on Euclid Avenue near Erb Street.
Welcome to Wonderful Waterloo kat!!

Do you know which property it is?
Post #17294
10-25-2010 07:25 PM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by Greg Moore View Post
I believe that will be the next area of choice for developers. The Mary-Allen neighborhood has a strong and vocal association that won't want big development encroaching on them. the Albert/King/Central area is (tragically) blocked from development by heritage designation. That leaves this area and Regina St.

There are some nice homes there, but it is so central, it would be a great area to develop, especially when BarrelYards becomes established.
Ya I think it'll happen as a bit of overflow from Barrel Yards
Post #17915
11-02-2010 10:35 AM
kat
Hamlet Member
Joined Oct 2010
3 posts
Quote Originally Posted by Spokes View Post
Welcome to Wonderful Waterloo kat!!

Do you know which property it is?
The triplex with white siding is what I heard. It was for sale in the summer.
Post #17916
11-02-2010 10:46 AM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by Greg Moore View Post
I believe that will be the next area of choice for developers. The Mary-Allen neighborhood has a strong and vocal association that won't want big development encroaching on them. the Albert/King/Central area is (tragically) blocked from development by heritage designation. That leaves this area and Regina St.

There are some nice homes there, but it is so central, it would be a great area to develop, especially when BarrelYards becomes established.
Is the whole area a heritage district? I thought it was just frozen from development temporarilly.
Post #17917
11-02-2010 10:49 AM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by kat View Post
The triplex with white siding is what I heard. It was for sale in the summer.
Thanks for the info!

I wonder if they're planning on trying to snatch up a number of properties around there. I'd love to see something fronting Erb between Elucid and Wells lane. It'd be directly across from the 8 storey hotel at BarrelYards, so something around 5 storeys would work.
Post #17966
11-02-2010 10:48 PM
Greg Moore
Urban Issues Moderator
Belmont Villiage
Joined Dec 2009
226 posts
Twitter - @the_g_spot
Quote Originally Posted by Spokes View Post
Is the whole area a heritage district? I thought it was just frozen from development temporarilly.
From what I was told by the city staff, it is all heritage. Each property is cataloged individually.
Post #17969
11-02-2010 11:23 PM
mpd618
City Member
Waterloo, ON
Joined Jan 2010
949 posts
Quote Originally Posted by Spokes View Post
Is the whole area a heritage district? I thought it was just frozen from development temporarilly.
It's the MacGregor/Albert Heritage Conservation District.
Post #17981
11-03-2010 08:51 AM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by mpd618 View Post
It's the MacGregor/Albert Heritage Conservation District.
So the OMB actually upheld the City's designation as a conservation district? Wow.
Post #17987
11-03-2010 09:37 AM
van Hemessen
Village Member
Kitchener, Ontario
Joined Jan 2010
76 posts
 Why wow? There weren't many opponents to designating that area a heritage district, and the OMB doesn't exactly have an anti-heritage bias as far as I can tell.
Post #17991
11-03-2010 09:57 AM
Spokes
Conurbation Member
Kitchener
Joined Dec 2009
5033 posts
Quote Originally Posted by van Hemessen View Post
Why wow? There weren't many opponents to designating that area a heritage district, and the OMB doesn't exactly have an anti-heritage bias as far as I can tell.
Ya but they usually always side with the development side of things.
Post #21845
12-28-2010 06:32 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
 Your Neighbourhood Credit Union Uptown (168 King Street South) - December 25, 2010
Post #21853
12-28-2010 08:54 PM
IEFBR14
Transportation Moderator
H2OWC
Joined Mar 2010
1026 posts
Quote Originally Posted by UrbanWaterloo View Post
Your Neighbourhood Credit Union Uptown (168 King Street South) - December 25, 2010
Notice how the ramp to the entrance is entirely clear of snow? You can't see this from the photo but, believe me, that courtesy does not extend to the public sidewalks on either side of the building
Post #21897
12-29-2010 01:04 PM
markster
Town Member
Joined Oct 2010
164 posts
Quote Originally Posted by IEFBR14 View Post
Notice how the ramp to the entrance is entirely clear of snow? You can't see this from the photo but, believe me, that courtesy does not extend to the public sidewalks on either side of the building
Time to call bylaw enforcement!
Post #21910
12-29-2010 03:12 PM
IEFBR14
Transportation Moderator
H2OWC
Joined Mar 2010
1026 posts
 Quite true. I suppose I should carry a camera when I go for walks so that I can flood Waterloo bylaw enforcement's Inbox with irrefutable proof that their green hornets can generate more revenue and garner more good will by expanding their territory outside the confines of Waterloo Square and expanding their mandate beyond 2-hour free parking enforcement

It's occured to me that when YNCU renovated they may have installed heating cables under the new walkways to their building entrances. Of course that doesn't absolve them of the requirement to keep the public sidewalks around their property equally clear by more conventional means.
Post #22837
01-14-2011 11:04 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
48 Moore Avenue South - January 13, 2011
Post #22846
01-15-2011 08:56 AM
jay
Moderator
Bauer Lofts, Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
665 posts
 48 Moore South is going be a Medi-Spa of some sort it seems. Although I'm not sure if they are using the whole building as the spa.
Post #22850
01-15-2011 10:11 AM
panamaniac
Town Member
Joined Mar 2010
414 posts
Quote Originally Posted by UrbanWaterloo View Post
48 Moore Avenue South - January 13, 2011

I don't mind a mansard roof, but this one looks a bit out of proportion, doesn't it?. Shingle or metal roofing, I wonder?
Post #22852
01-15-2011 10:41 AM
BuildingScout
Urban Issues Moderator
Joined Jul 2010
366 posts
Quote Originally Posted by panamaniac View Post
I don't mind a mansard roof, but this one looks a bit out of proportion,
I positively dislike them, and yes it is out of proportion. In fact almost all mansard roofs in Canada are disproportionately large. They are supposed to be a way to sneak one or two extra floors on top of four or five tall floors. Here we have the mansard roof capping three low height stories, all out of proportion as you indicate.
Post #22854
01-15-2011 10:52 AM
DHLawrence
Town Member
Joined Mar 2010
457 posts
 To see a proper one, you really have to go to Old Quebec. I'm fairly tolerant of architecture that others think is bad, but even I can tell that this one is too big.
Post #22855
01-15-2011 11:17 AM
panamaniac
Town Member
Joined Mar 2010
414 posts
 Many old two and three storey houses in Quebec also have mansard roofs, often with a front or surrounding veranda. That can be charming. I suppose in a case like 48 Moore South, the architect was trying to avoid a flat-roofed box (what is the cross street here, the location looks residential?). What would the alternatives be, do you think, for a building like this?
Post #22857
01-15-2011 11:37 AM
benjaminbach
Town Member
Kitchener Waterloo
Joined Oct 2010
270 posts
Benjamin Bach, Sales Rep & Director at KW Commercial | Read my real estate investment blog
Not intended to solicit clients or properties under contract.
Quote Originally Posted by panamaniac View Post
what is the cross street here, the location looks residential?.
Erb & Moore
Post #22866
01-15-2011 02:38 PM
KLM
Town Member
Kitchener
Joined May 2010
206 posts
 this one looks like gingerbread house .color wise ,lol
Post #22890
01-16-2011 01:16 PM
UrbanWaterloo
Moderator
Kitchener-Waterloo
Joined Dec 2009
3554 posts
cc LRT Letters to letters@wonderfulwaterloo.com
 You might recall Bethel Chapel (16 Laurel Street) undergoing renovations during the summer. Here's a photo of the completed project.

Bethel Chapel - January 13, 2011